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matt stevens

Brilliant stuff as usual - essential

Its all about building community.

Chris Bracco

this is EXCELLENT.

Andrea Gerak

Pity that I can't read it from my mobile, I only get to a pdf.

Brian Smith

Really good stuff!!


This is the kind of information that indie artists need to see. Enough of the one-off, "get of Twitter and Facebook" business. I love that the PDF actually gives practical advice.

Thanks so much to Ariel for curating the document. I too laughed at the New Music Seminar when you highlighted the Billboard list. It is amazing how much people don't get that advice to "make it big" no longer entails plugging into the Big 4. They cannot even guarantee success these days.

It's about hard work and stick-to-it-tiveness (yep, I just did that). The artists that will succeed will have that survivor nature and be innovative while trying to "make it" somehow.


WOW! 44 pages! guess I don't need to speak on panels anymore... yayyy

Music Spazz

I loved this pdf, I loved the content, and I am grateful for all of the folks who contributed to it. Thank you.

The problem is not the availability of this type of information, it is the lack of willingness on the musician's part to do it. Sorry in advance if you are one of the indie artists who is already DOING IT.

Hey starving indie artist - start with two or three things from this PDF and DO IT and if they don't work for you, pick two or three other things and DO IT. Continue this until you find what is working for you.

Not trying to sound like Mr. Negative here. I just encounter way too many indies who have grate potential, but don't take control of making something happen with their music.

Motivational tip for the day - DO IT. (I am starting to sound a bit like a Nike commercial.)

Suzanne Lainson

Yes, unfortunately, a lot of musicians don't want to hear the advice. They still want to believe they make great music and that if only the right people would hear it, everything would fall into place.

I've worked with young writers, business people, athletes, and musicians, and the musicians have been the hardest to give career counseling to.

Taylor Trask

This is great info but the PDF isn't the greatest medium to share it. Is there an online, bookmarkable version somewhere?

Stefan M. @ Ariel Publicity

Thank you everyone for the comments. We at Ariel Publicity live and breathe this every day, so we KNOW that it works. (and it helps that I designed it, lol ::shameless plug::)

@Taylor Trask - have you checked out our blog? Its full of great info like this: http://www.arielpublicity.com/blog

Christopher Gesualdi

In the state of flux that this industry is currently in, this post is a breath of fresh air. People are constantly picking our collective brain here at Ariel Publicity for just one thing that they can do to help propel their careers; this article offers 100.

I must say, that Chris Gesualdi sure is knowledgeable (unbelievably handsome as well).

JD Doyle

Terrific stuff.....not an artist, but do radio and found it fascinating, saved it to my harddrive....:)

Suzanne Lainson

One thing I didn't see (unless I missed it) is to have ways to measure what you are trying, and then if you aren't getting results, think about trying a different approach.

I've done a lot of grassroots music marketing, and sometimes, after you've tried a promotional technique, there's no noticeable change in show attendance or online response. So it didn't accomplish what you wanted.

Or maybe you are getting a ton of online fans, but no one is coming to shows or buying your CDs. So you may be successful in one aspect, but not achieving your ultimate goal.

Another challenge is that once an idea proves to be successful with a few artists, everyone tries it, and it's value may go down. So what works now may not continue to work as well in the future. You don't necessarily want to be constantly trying to new things just to do them, but when what you are currently doing isn't working as well any more, you may need to do some fine-tuning or try a different approach.

On the other hand, if you make changes and then start losing your hardcore fans and don't make new ones to compensate, you may want to go back to the tried-and-true.

Caroline Bottomley

Excellent, I'll tweet it.

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Ariel's collaborative "List" is an excellent tool where artists at every level should be able to find something helpful to enhance their growth and/or development. No one has said that navigating the new music business waters is easy but the "List" is as good a place as any to start learning the process.

Justin Boland

When you do version 2.0, cut down on the repetition. I understand that's because you're dealing with a panel of people who have different ways of saying the same thing, but still -- trim the fat. This could have been 10 pages shorter, easy, and been more effective, too.

Mark Marshall

When I saw the Billboard story - I had the same reaction I have when people recommend the Trent Reznor model to small indie bands.

The Oprah line had me laughing out loud.

Ariel, on the other hand - kicks ASS.

Ariel Hyatt

HI Taylor - Ariel Hyatt here. There will be a bookmarkable version within the next day or so available at Musicthinktank.com and each entry will be open for comments! Thanks for asking.

Cheers, A


People like Ariel and Bob Baker are the new Messiahs for independent musicians. As the old adage goes: Knowledge is power. The information I have derived from Ariel and Bob has literally "saved" my career!

April Jones

And this is why Ariel and her crew ROCKS.

I also agree with what Suzanne was saying about measuring and tracking results. I do this type of stuff for bands and I know its sometimes discouraging to them when something doesn't seem to produce much of a result so its good to be able to kind of chart the progress and give them something in black and white, even if its just as small as 5 new mailing list subscribers.

Thanks to Ariel and the gang for taking the time to put this together.


As an artist that is constantly researching useful and also helpful tips. I tip my hat to you for compiling together such wonderful information. Thank you for believing in todays music =).



I think you should see if you can get the Indie Maximum Exposure List published through Billboard Books!

Suzanne Lainson

DIY bands never have enough resources, time or money. So rarely can you do everything. That's why it's important to try maybe a handful of promotional techniques and then abandon those that aren't working for you.

And fan bases are different. For example, some bands have lots of potential fans on Twitter and others have relatively few.

As the tools develop so that you can update a status once, and have it go to MySpace, Twitter, Facebook, etc., it becomes less time-consuming to have a presence on a variety of places.

But still, some fans don't have time to monitor feedback from fans at all sites. So if that is the case for you, then focus on what seems to be working the best.

It's probably better to do a few techniques well than trying to do all of them at a shallow level.


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Great to see so many artists looking for ways to get their music heard. We at whotune.com have invested heavily & continue to do so to enable artists to find useful tools in a real 'Social Network' type environment. We invite all serious musicians, bands/artists, music based businesses & fans to join whotune & enjoy our features. We have Radio playing only unsigned music, Jam Cam-perform LIVE anytime,anywhere via webcam to ppl all over the world! we are adding a 'pay per download' service soon too so u can sell ur music directly from your whotune profile. Theres tons of cool stuff there already & we work closely with artists to ensure we keep innovating! Hope to see you there soon! Karl George, Founder www.whotune.com

Zack "The Mothman" Daggy

Wow! Honored that my site/show made the list! Awesome!

Mister 1-2-3-4

Great list! I wanted to add a suggestion that I didn't see mentioned by anyone: create a Nimbit store for your band. You can create an online storefront to sell MP3s, CDs, t-shirts or any other kind of merch and place it on your official site, MySpace, and Facebook. Your fans can even post the store on their own pages. You have direct control over what you are selling, you get the money immediately, and you get contact info for people that buy from you. I don't think it's going to supplant iTunes anytime soon, but it's a terrific option for indie artists (and no, I don't work for Nimbit ;-) )

Old Record Guy

You might as well have posted a message saying "I AM A GREEDY TALENTLESS PARASITE SEEKING ATTENTION, PLEASE IGNORE ME".

Daniel "Danny Dee" Aguayo

I totally agree...almost every single one of the artists I site down with are looking for a "magic pill" and do not really wanna do the actual work themselves.


Nice one

DASTARDS from the UK

Music Distribution

Looks interesting from the comments, I'll give it a download now. Thanks.


Link is a 404 now. :( Where is it please? Thanks.

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