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Brian Thompson

funnily enough, we just published a new episode of The Music Biz Weekly this morning that addresses this continual, "sky is falling" Facebook commentary which has been going on for what seems like forever, regardless of the changes they make.

if you're interested in our opinion, here's the link...

Don't Panic! You Can Still Reach Fans on Facebook for Free:

Clyde Smith

Too bad I don't listen to podcasts or maybe I'd give up the apparent error of my ways.

Clyde Smith

So is this also directed at me?

"Join us this week as we address the non-stop barrage of Facebook fear-mongering from many media "experts" that leaves musicians & marketers assuming the network has "stolen their fans", forcing users to pay to access them."

Brian Thompson

nope, not at all Clyde. this isn't a personal attack.

our podcast was recorded two days ago and published this morning, before this post was even published.

this episode was in response to the countless articles we've seen over the past few months on this topic, which started way back when many people were under the impression that only 14% of their fans see their posts, which isn't true.

again, this has nothing to do with your reporting, rather the tone of the market in general in regards to Facebook.

Clyde Smith

Thanks for clarifying. I know some of what we do can get sensationalistic but I don't say things I don't believe and I try to do a good job of only saying things that are accurate or are clearly my opinion.

Regarding podcasts, I just can't listen to anybody's. It's just one of those things not specific to your podcast at all.

Ali Shakeri

These changes to Facebook are fairly frustrating for up and coming musicians and small businesses alike.

It's tough because Facebook appears to be the modern equivalent of the morning paper, except significantly more addicting. Facebook definitely recognizes this and wants to fully monetize the space in each individuals newsfeed, which makes it doubly frustrating as those slots for certain demographics will become more expensive over time, favoring big brands with larger budgets.

However, there might be an opportunity for artists to become experienced with targeted advertising and ditch expensive PR companies and independent publicists whose results are highly questionable?

E.g. if you have a new release and want to hire a publicist, why not just choose to target fans in your target demographic:

You're an electro house producer in los angeles
You have a new track out on soundcloud and released on beatport
Create post directing fans to track, run for 2-3 weeks at $5/day
Post is highly targeted, popping in the newsfeed of 18-24 m/f (ppl who will go to your show)
Post also targets people who like up and coming electro house artists, and the venues that you're trying to book shows at (i.e. MAKJ + Avalon Hollywood)

Yeah, it might cost you $50-$100, but it might give artists who are able to think critically a good way to get in front of the people they want listening to their tracks.

What do you think?

Clyde Smith

I think whether or not you want to work with a publicist is a separate issue but targeted ads on Facebook make a lot of sense.

I don't usually write about advertising but maybe I should in this case.

I have to admit my general annoyance at Facebook makes me not want to give them money but the point is how best to reach fans and possible fans and that might be a really good way to do it.


Ali that would be a great idea but Facebook ads just really don't work as well because of the intent of the end user. People aren't necessarily on Facebook to find music. Also with any type of laser targeting you will be paying close to $1 a click(When you take into account accidental clicks that you still pay for). So it's almost like you are selling your tracks to people instead of having them buying it from you. That type of model is not sustainable. The best thing for artists to do is to deal with sites that people actually go to in search of new music. Sites like Youtube. I would say Soundcloud but Soundcloud has the same problem Reverbnation has. They are both incestual web properties so you will only find other musicians on there for the most part. Major artists have listeners/plays/likes on their Soundcloud because their songs get posted on sites that people go to for new music and that is counted by Soundcloud. But the audience just isn't there for that. And a publicist does much more than just send out a press release. In my opinion publicist is the most important person outside of the actual band, musician, artist.


Hey Clyde, thank you for sharing my thoughts on the latest Facebook algorithm change. I think it's a reminder to everyone that it's important to gain knowledge about other network sites (like Twitter, Instagram & Google+), learn how to use them and adjust your online marketing plan as the tide shifts. It's never wise to focus efforts where you get little or no traction. It's also a reminder to not spend all your time and energy on one social network because at some point it can change. I think it's better to diversify even if just a bit. I remember when we all thought Myspace was king and that it would surely never go away. We now laugh at that. My advice: watch the trends, and most important, educate yourself on popular and emerging social media sites.


That's a real shame, Facebook does open up opportunity's for smaller bands and artists to pick up fans and find Gigs. Limiting the reach they have will only make things harder.

We have been together as a band for over a year now and in that time on our facebook page www.facebook.com/riptyderockband we have picked up nearly 700 likes. Its been tough to attract people to check us out with current restrictions so god help bands and artists of the future.


There is a way around this http://www.nikkipilkington.com/how-can-i-get-more-people-to-see-my-posts-on-my-facebook-business-page/


This is very anoying...

i am an electronic music producer, i admin a small page with barely more than 1000 subscribers, i never made publicity of my page, all i did was leave the link in my soundcloud account so that people who like my music to interact and subscribe...

but now the page its useless, because instead of having 1000 people reading and being interested in my work, only 7/8 people are reached for its publishing...

and honestly i am going to shut down my page, and my account and try to stablish in other social network, because facebook its allready in his road to become obsolete

the funny thing is, why is a millionare that becomed millionare with a social network that people used, needs to do what he is doing?? why do facebook needs now to charge money to people to interact with?? i understand that some brands exploited facebook to make money...

but how about individual artists? bloggers?

all this is wrong, and i really hope they ill burn with it...

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