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# You Can Be The Band Nobody Wants To Play With In 10 Easy Steps
- URL: https://www.hypebot.com/being-the-band-nobody-wants-to-play-with-in-10-easy-steps/
- Published: 2017-06-28T13:00:00.000Z
- Updated: 2017-06-28T13:00:00.000Z
- Description: Being a band or artist that other musicians can stand to play with is important to building a long-term successful career. Here we look at ten steps to avoid taking. Continue reading [https://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2017/06/being-the-band-nobody-wants-to-play-with-in-10-easy-steps.html]
- Author: Guest Author
- Tags: DIY Advice & Tips, Live & Ticketing, Music Business, Music Marketing, #wp, #wp-post, #Import 2026-01-21 10:13

[![(1)](http://hypebot.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b36c69e201bb09a98bc9970d-200wi "(1)")](http://hypebot.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b36c69e201bb09a98bc9970d-popup?ref=hypebot.com)Being a band or artist that other musicians can stand to play with is important to building a long-term successful career. Here we look at ten steps to avoid taking which will transform your band into something no will ever want to work with.

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*Guest post by *Evan Zwisler* of [Soundfly](https://soundfly.com/?ref=hypebot.com)'s [Flypaper](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/hustle/how-to-be-the-band-nobody-wants-to-play-with-ever-again-in-10-easy-steps/?ref=hypebot.com)*My band, the Gnarly Shredderz, is one of the greatest bands of all time. We’re so awesome, in fact, that **bands on the same bill as us never ask my group to play another show with them because they know they just can’t keep up**. We just end up embarrassing them with our [insanely interesting songs](http://soundfly.com/courses/new-songwriters-workshop?ref=hypebot.com) and wild, passionate [stage presence](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/tips/rock-singers-can-improve-showmanship/?ref=hypebot.com).If you want to get to our level — which might honestly be impossible — here’s are 10 steps that will transform you into the band nobody wants to play with ever again.

### 1\. Never Do Your Own Promotion

Most promoters who book the Gnarly Shredderz want *us* to spend weeks [advertising the show online](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/tips/build-bands-online-presence-portfolio-tour/?ref=hypebot.com), inviting people, and doing all sorts of other lame BS. **Why should musicians have to promote? I’m not [a promoter](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/hustle/running-successful-diy-public-relations-campaign/?ref=hypebot.com).** I’m the lead singer and lead guitarist of the sickest band in America right now, bro! If the venue can’t figure out a way to get people in the door, [that’s on them](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/tips/5-things-to-know-about-venues-to-book-great-shows/?ref=hypebot.com)! Musicians are musicians, and that’s all you need to succeed.[Venues and bookers](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/tips/the-5-people-you-need-to-know-when-booking-shows/?ref=hypebot.com) will ask us not to play shows in the area for a few weeks before the show, and we say we won’t. But here’s a little secret: **we always do**. They say it’s important to make sure to get the best crowd. They’re just looking after themselves; [they can’t tell us what to do](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/hustle/be-your-own-booker-advice-on-booking-shows-from-nycs-diy-community/?ref=hypebot.com).Who cares if the other bands asked you to do the same? You have to get your music out there. Your band is way more important than any one gig, so you don’t really need to keep your word when bands ask you to block out a date. The real music fans out there, and the truly cool venues in gentrifying areas, don’t care about how many people you draw — it’s all about the music.Besides, caring about draw makes you a sellout.

### 2\. Don’t Coordinate Marketing Efforts with Other Bands

I don’t want to have to reach out to the other bands either. What could I [possibly talk to them about](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/hustle/relationship-building-networking/?ref=hypebot.com)? Sure, we *could* share each other’s music over our respective social media accounts so the fans will be excited about the whole bill, and [coordinating posts can be helpful](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/tips/social-media-content-ideas/?ref=hypebot.com), but that’s nerd stuff. My social followers only care about me, not someone else.I’m an artist anyway. I’m just above all that.**\+ Read more on *Flypaper*: [“4 Easy Things You Should Be Doing at Every Live Show”](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/hustle/4-easy-things-every-live-show/?ref=hypebot.com)**

### 3\. Load In Last Minute

Most venues will have a **load-in time** — a time when the lesser bands drop off their gear backstage and do their soundcheck. If your band is half as amazing as mine, the other bands probably aren’t going to mind if you load in after the show starts. They know they’re only there to warm up the crowd. We’re the main attraction.When the Gnarly Shredderz set up, we take our sweet time. We have a very specific sound, and it takes time to dial it in. We don’t really [think about the audience](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/tips/5-professional-pragmatic-practices-maximize-performance-experience/?ref=hypebot.com) or the other bands when we’re doing this. When we’re onstage, it’s our stage.

### 4\. Skip Soundcheck

The problem with [soundcheck](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/hustle/soundcheck-performance/?ref=hypebot.com) is that **soundchecking is boring**! Why should I have to show up hours before the show even starts? We just do ours before our set. Sure, it might interrupt the flow of the show, but it’s a small price to pay to see the Gnarly Shredderz.**Soundchecks [are for chumps](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/hustle/5-horrible-truths-bandmates-soundchecks/?ref=hypebot.com).**

### 5\. Miss the Other Bands’ Sets

First off, let me say that you’re under no obligation to watch the other bands. I’m sorry that I don’t want to watch your weak band. I didn’t I agree to watch anyone, and [I’m on a tour](https://soundfly.com/courses/touring-on-a-shoestring?ref=hypebot.com) with new support acts every night. How could I possibly have enough interest in them all?**I do, however, expect you to watch my band**. You guys could learn a lot, and I’ll be upset if I don’t see you cheering for us in the crowd.

### 6\. Drink… a Lot

Get drunk. It’s what rock stars do, and if you’re going to play a rock-star set, then it’s probably a great idea to do a bunch of shots while you’re hanging out backstage. I mean, [Slash](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/discover/what-makes-a-great-debut-album-these-5-classics-can-teach-us-everything/?ref=hypebot.com) was constantly wasted, and he could really rip it! Your bandmates will understand that if you [start making mistakes](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/tips/even-tightest-bands-make-mistakes-ok/?ref=hypebot.com) it’s because of the alcohol, not you, and they’ll be cool with it.

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**\+ Learn more on Soundfly: Thinking of taking your show on the road? Learn how to book, manage, and promote DIY tours with our free course [*Touring on a Shoestring*!](https://soundfly.com/courses/touring-on-a-shoestring?ref=hypebot.com)**

### 7\. Hit on *All* the Women

If a girl is hanging out with the band, she’s probably just there to sell merch or is someone’s girlfriend. There’s really no need to talk to her unless you want to hit on her, which is why she’s *really* there. And if that woman is in the band, even if she’s the lead singer, she probably isn’t [the band leader](https://soundfly.com/courses/building-a-better-band?ref=hypebot.com) or the person [who does the booking](https://soundfly.com/courses/touring-on-a-shoestring?ref=hypebot.com). Women [aren’t *real* musicians](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/editorial/empowerment-female-producer-women-in-music/?ref=hypebot.com) anyway.

### 8\. Ignore Sound Engineers

The [people who run sound at shows](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/tips/every-sound-guys-best-friend/?ref=hypebot.com) are just *musician wannabes.* They don’t know what you want or need. **Sure, they may get a clearer representation of what the audience is hearing, but they’re dumb, and you don’t need to listen to them**. If they give you an attitude, don’t be afraid to get confrontational — they have no power, and you’ll probably never see them again.I’ve been told many *so* times that my 100-watt Marshall stack is “way too loud for this venue.” You wanna know what that makes me think? That if you don’t like a tinnitus-inducing rock show, you’re a dweeb. Your show should be as loud as you can possibly make it. If [your amp sounds good](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/discover/guitar-amps-work-learn-modifying/?ref=hypebot.com) in your practice space, it’ll sound good anywhere!**\+ Read more on *Flypaper*: [“5 Steps to Getting ‘Gig Ready'”](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/hustle/get-gig-ready-five-steps/?ref=hypebot.com)**

### 9\. Forget Your Filter Onstage

What I love to do onstage is **tease the other bands a bit and point out what I didn’t like about their sets**. It’s good for them because it shows them how they need to improve. It’s all in good fun, and they always understand. It’s a win-win because it not only improves their act, but it also makes us look great to the audience.If someone in your band — hint: it’s always [the bass player](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/hustle/bass-player-quits-find-new-member/?ref=hypebot.com) — messes up his or her part, feel free to yell at him or her onstage. If you don’t call that person out, how is he or she gonna learn, right?

### 10\. Don’t Tip the Bartender

Everyone knows you’re a struggling musician, so if you decide you don’t want to tip your bartenders, I’m sure they’ll understand. They got to see your band for free, so they kind of *owe you* when you really think about it.Alright, that’s all the knowledge I’m going to let you in on for now. You do [all these things](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/tips/musicians-checklist-nail-your-next-gig/?ref=hypebot.com), and you won’t even [need to practice](http://flypaper.soundfly.com/tag/how-musicians-practice/?ref=hypebot.com) to become an enormous international megastar. Oh, and **you’re welcome**.**Learn how to *actually* play a decent show, get along with other bands, and make serious contacts in our popular, free course on band leadership, *[Building a Better Band](https://soundfly.com/courses/building-a-better-band?ref=hypebot.com)*.**