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# CASH Music’s Maggie Vail – Make Sure Today’s Artists Are Paid For Creative Works
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- Published: 2014-02-10T11:57:00.000Z
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In this episode of the [Upward Spiral](https://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/upward-spiral/), a music business podcast, we talk to **Maggie Vail**, who is the co-executive director of [CASH Music](http://cashmusic.org/?ref=hypebot.com), a nonprofit group that is building both open source tools and an educational curriculum for artists. Previously, she spent 17 years at the indie label Kill Rock Stars. She talks with us about how to make sure indie artists are paid for their creative works.

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