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# Hypebot Presents The Upward Spiral Podcast: Episode 4 [LISTEN]
- URL: https://www.hypebot.com/hypebot-presents-the-upward-spiral-podcast-episode-4-listen/
- Published: 2012-07-05T11:56:00.000Z
- Updated: 2012-07-05T11:56:00.000Z
- Description: Hypebot presents the fourth episode of The Upward Spiral Podcast, which features Kyle Bylin of Live Nation Labs (and former Hypebot Editor), music industry consultant Jason Spitz (Former Director of Marketing at Topspin), and Hypebot's Hisham Dahud (also of Fame House).. Continue reading [https://ww
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Hypebot presents the fourth episode of **The Upward Spiral Podcast**, which features [Kyle Bylin](https://twitter.com/?ref=hypebot.com#!/kbylin) of [Live Nation Labs](http://www.livenationlabs.com/?ref=hypebot.com) (and former Hypebot Editor), music industry consultant [Jason Spitz](https://twitter.com/?ref=hypebot.com#!/jasonspitz) (Former Director of Marketing at [Topspin](http://www.topspinmedia.com/?ref=hypebot.com)), and Hypebot's [Hisham Dahud](http://twitter.com/hishamdahud?ref=hypebot.com) (also of [Fame House](http://famehouse.net/?ref=hypebot.com)). They launched the podcast as a platform for conversations about the issues that face artists and music professionals.

  
This episode, Kyle and Jason are joined by Katie Rentfro of Magnolia Red Management and My New Release artist services. An interview with Katie provides **an in-depth look at the world of artist services** and what makes a successful artist/manager relationship.

The three also address the question, "Do you have the right fans for a Crowdfunding plan?" All of this, plus news on Spotify, MOG, Beats, EMI, and more!

**Listen to Episode 4:**

### **Glossary of items mentioned on this episode:**

- **[Beats Buys MOG](https://www.hypebot.com/official-dre-iovines-beats-buys-mog/)**
- **[Spotify Launches Artist Apps](https://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2012/06/spotify-launches-artists-apps-offer-deep-dive-inside-quincy-jones-ti%C3%ABsto-rancid-disturbed-.html)**
- **[Magnolia Red Management](www.magnoliared.com)**
- **[My New Release artist services](www.mynewrelease.com)**
- **[Farnam Street](http://www.farnamstreetblog.com/?ref=hypebot.com)**
- **[Ordinary Courage (a blog by Brene Brown)](:%20http://www.ordinarycourage.com/)**

Feedback? Comments? Ideas for discussion topics? Email [upwardspiralpodcast@gmail.com](mailto:upwardspiralpodcast@gmail.com), or Tweet to [@UpwardSpiralPod](https://twitter.com/?ref=hypebot.com#!/upwardspiralpod) on Twitter. 

**[Subscribe to The Upward Spiral on iTunes:](http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-upward-spiral/id531534597?ref=hypebot.com)**

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