> ## Content Index > Fetch the complete content index at: https://www.hypebot.com/llms.txt > Use this file to discover other available public pages before exploring further. # Victory Records Reaches New Highs…Or Is It Lows? - URL: https://www.hypebot.com/victory_records/ - Published: 2006-03-04T06:36:03.000Z - Updated: 2006-03-04T06:36:03.000Z - Description: Indie Victory is known for its take no prisoners approach, but they may have reached new highs (or lows) recently with a message to their street team. Splashed across the. Continue reading [https://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2006/03/victory_records.html] - Author: Bruce Houghton - Tags: Indie Music, Music Marketing, #wp, #wp-post, #Import 2026-01-21 11:10 [![Victoryrecords_4](https://hypebot.typepad.com/hypebot/images/victoryrecords_4.gif "Victoryrecords_4")](http://hypebot.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/victoryrecords%5F4.gif?ref=hypebot.com) Indie Victory is known for its take no prisoners approach, but they may have reached new highs (or lows) recently with a message to their street team. Splashed across the net by [The LefsetzLetter](http://www.lefsetz.com/?ref=hypebot.com), [Velvet Rope](http://www.velvetrope.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=754784&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=2&fpart=1&ref=hypebot.com), [Coolfer](http://www.coolfer.com/blog/archives/2006/03/victory%5Fat%5Fall%5F1.html?ref=hypebot.com#more) and others, this letter to fans of Victory’s act Hawthorne Heights (and a similar posting on [MySpace)](http://www.myspace.com/hawthorneheights?ref=hypebot.com) gives a glimpse into the label’s aggressive tactics. While this rare public look at a practice sometimes used by major label staff will come as no [![Hawthorneheights_2](https://hypebot.typepad.com/hypebot/images/hawthorneheights_2.jpg "Hawthorneheights_2")](http://hypebot.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/hawthorneheights%5F2.jpg?ref=hypebot.com) surprise to industry insiders, it does seem contradictory behavior for an Indy who claims to be creating a paradigm different than the majors and to value music and the fans above all else. Targeted for damage was Ne-yo, Hawthorne Height’s man competition for first week sales: > *"…As for Ne-yo, the name of the game is to decrease the chances of a* > *sale here. If you were to pick up handful of Ne-yo CDs, as if you* > *were about to buy them, but then changed your mind and didn’t bother* > *to put them back in the same place, that would work. Even though this* > *record will be heavily stocked and you might not be able to move all* > *the stock, just relocating a handful creates issues: Even though the* > *store will appear to be out of stock, the computer will see it as in* > *stock and not re-order the title once it sells down and then Ne-Yo* > *will lose a few sales later in the week…"* > > *"…Please be sure to email me this week and let me know which stores you* > *have gone to and worked your magic at…* > > *"…Victory at all costs, Victory in spite of all terror, Victory however* > *long and hard the road may be; for without Victory, there is no* > *survival…"* Click below for the full text of the letter. THE LETTER: Happy Hawthorne Heights day everyone – street date has finally arrived! It all comes down to the next six days and maximizing our sales at as many stores as possible. We are neck-and-neck with this Ne-yo character on Universal and we need everyone out there tilting the tide in our favor. Our projected numbers for first week sales are about even so we really need to make every unit count if we want to win. We do this first by selling more Hawthorne Heights, hitting as many stores as possible, making sure Hawthorne Heights stock is in the front and very visible in every store we visit. Get inside, do what you need to do, and move on to the next store. Move Hawthorne Heights into as many key positions as you can. Remember there are two covers so not only put them together, put them in different places. HH should have spots in all the new release racks toward the front of the store but we can always increase our presence by dropping a few in another displays. If you don’t see our product on display at the front of the store, particularly later in the week, then go to the bin and move what you can. There are a lot of stores that are not as on top of this as they should be, especially something as hot as Hawthorne Heights, so we need to give these people all the help they can get. Also look for HH in the areas where stores keep overstock. Sometimes this is below the bins or on the top of the rack. If you find any CDs, particularly under the bins, try to move those out first to the other areas of the store. On the off chance you find a store that doesn’t have any copies of the new Hawthorne, find a clerk and ask him why they don’t have it. If it’s sold out, find out when they have more coming in. If it’s showing as in stock, let him know that you can’t find it so he knows to order more. Here is a list of the best chain stores to go to: Best Buy Target Wal Mart FYE Coconuts Wherehouse Circuit City Sam’s Club K Mart Sam Goody Virgin Borders Borders Barnes & Noble Fred Meyer Hastings Meijer As for Ne-yo, the name of the game is to decrease the chances of a sale here. If you were to pick up handful of Ne-yo CDs, as if you were about to buy them, but then changed your mind and didn’t bother to put them back in the same place, that would work. Even though this record will be heavily stocked and you might not be able to move all the stock, just relocating a handful creates issues: Even though the store will appear to be out of stock, the computer will see it as in stock and not re-order the title once it sells down and then Ne-Yo will lose a few sales later in the week This is most important in stores were we are competing with Ne-yo, which is in the big chains that sell pop and urban product. The stores listed above are in the order you should hit them up. The main thing is to keep the pressure up all week. First day sales are important but keeping our sales going and having a strong weekend are equally important to grabbing the #1 slot that belongs to us. Please be sure to email me this week and let me know which stores you have gone to and worked your magic at. Thanks everyone, Abby Victory at all costs, Victory in spite of all terror, Victory however long and hard the road may be; for without Victory, there is no survival.